So long as it's post game, I'm good with it. Also, return of Ghetsis' freakin' Hydreigon. Ready to bomb it with Fairy types in revenge.

I think it's lame, just like the original Sun and Moon. There's little more boring to me in Pokemon than the Legendaries.

Can't wait TO MURDER EVERYTHING AGAIN! except for the ledgendaries Hope they aren't shiny locked

Fucking run, Ghetsis and Cyrus are in the same game! (I'm still gonna get the game and kick their asses again!) I honestly would not be surprised if anyone just betray each other tbh.

The thing is I rock at Pokemon so Cyrus and ghetsis were easy for me Still can't get into competitive battling tho Too much work

Still can't get into competitive battling tho Too much work Those are the only reasons to play the game, I think. Once you get IVs and EVs (especially since S/M made them even easier), you'll get why it's the best part. It's not difficult to get into it anymore.

The thing is I rock at Pokemon so Cyrus and ghettos were easy for me Still can't get into competitive battling tho Too much work They were rather difficult, but Fairy types are the devil for Ghetsis right now (unless he makes Hydregion have poison and steel type moves). Yeah competitive pokemon is too difficult, but I breed a perfect Cincinno tho.

I mean yeah I've are now The thing is I shiny hunt at the same time

I mean yeah I've are now The thing is I shiny hunt at the same time Heckin same, but in Pokemon Platinum, the Poke radar is amazing

They were rather difficult, but Fairy types are the devil for Ghetsis right now (unless he makes Hydregion have poison and steel type moves). Yeah competitive pokemon is too difficult, but I breed a perfect Cincinno tho. I meant I had an easy time with them in their original reincarnations.

Lucky, I just I had a weird team tbh

Doesn't matter how hard they are, I'm excited to see them back. I really like Cyrus as a character, so I'm excited for his return especially. 4th gen was my favourite generation, Cynthia is my favourite (as well as probably the hardest) champion and Cyrus is my favouritw team leader. Still, Courtney is my favourite admin after Omega Ruby. Shame she's not back. Guess old design Maxie will have to do.

Doesn't matter how hard they are, I'm excited to see them back. I really like Cyrus as a character, so I'm excited for his return especially. 4th gen was my favourite generation, Cynthia is my favourite (as well as probably the hardest) champion and Cyrus is my favouritw team leader. Still, Courtney is my favourite admin after Omega Ruby. Shame she's not back. Guess old design Maxie will have to do. Same, I'm excited to see my younger self's enemy again (Ghetsis, Pokemon White was my first Pokemon game ever)

Same. Can't wait to destroy Cyrus and Ghetsis again FOR TREETURTLE, SUPERPIG,AND LUIGI!!!!! (I was terrible at nicknames back then, TreeTurtle was a Torterra, SuperPig was a Emboar, Luigi was a Serpirior.)

I always name my starters after the Organization XIII members if the genders were right (Axel for fire, Demyx for water and Marluxia for grass)

My current nicknames for my favorite starters Bulbasaur: Raflesia Cyndaquil: Flames Mudkip: Kipley Turtwig: Turts Tepig: Bunsen Froakie: Jiraya Poppleo: Mina

Pokemon should add a difficulty option, like Fire Emblem. If you play competitively, the storyline is way too easy. The only parts of it that ever get hard are post-game, but only due to hax and not skill.

I think it's lame, just like the original Sun and Moon. There's little more boring to me in Pokemon than the Legendaries.You.. do realize that part of it wasn't even the main part of the video, right? They just stuck that there to show that, like ORAS, you'll be able to catch Legends from across the series, whoop-dee-doo. Honestly, the only "exciting" part about that is that Shiny Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde will most likely end up being legitimately available outside events. The main part of the trailer is the returning evil leaders and Rainbow Rocket which is, as I expressed earlier, hopefully post-game content like the Delta Episode and not tying into the main story. Heck, the title and thumbnail didn't even show anything about the returning Legendaries, they were just slapped onto the trailer.

Pokemon should add a difficulty option, like Fire Emblem. If you play competitively, the storyline is way too easy. The only parts of it that ever get hard are post-game, but only due to hax and not skill. That's why Black 2 has Challenge Mode. Things can go up to either level 110 or 120, can't remember.

You.. do realize that part of it wasn't even the main part of the video, right? They just stuck that there to show that, like ORAS, you'll be able to catch Legends from across the series, whoop-dee-doo. Honestly, the only "exciting" part about that is that Shiny Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde will most likely end up being legitimately available outside events. The main part of the trailer is the returning evil leaders and Rainbow Rocket which is, as I expressed earlier, hopefully post-game content like the Delta Episode and not tying into the main story. Heck, the title and thumbnail didn't even show anything about the returning Legendaries, they were just slapped onto the trailer. Yeah, and that just goes to show you how little I cared about the rest of it. Fanservice and more yawnfest Legendaries. Boy, really making me want to play it now... [/sarcasm] I really want nothing to do with this Pokemon generation, same way I skipped Gen V. Maybe when it gets to the Switch, it'll be worth playing again.

Pokemon should add a difficulty option, like Fire Emblem. If you play competitively, the storyline is way too easy. The only parts of it that ever get hard are post-game, but only due to hax and not skill. I'm sure pokemon fans would love phoenix casual mode in their games. All jokes aside, yeah Sun and Moon were way to easy, and this is from someone who doesn't play competitively. Gen 4 was a nice challenge, especially during the endgame with Cyrus and Cynthia. Kind of hope thy bring that back in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. That being said, they somehow made Sun and Moon easier than X and Y, so I doubt a hard pokemon game will be coming anytime soon. Oh well. Theres always the fan games.

Oh yeah, I forgot that Fates had the literal baby mode, but that's pretty uncommon with games like that. It should be basic for Pokemon, standard (like it's always been) should be default with one option to up it harder, like Hardcore in BW2. That would eliminate that loophole. Edit: The crazy thing is, Gen 1 is actually harder than any later Pokemon game. GameFreak is so concerned now about newbies, that the games are essentially hand-holding messes now. The best part of the game, that required a lot of dedication just to do, was always competitive, and now that's even easy. I guess it's good now that it's accessible, but I think in the not so near future, the games may very well be fully automated.

Yeah, and that just goes to show you how little I cared about the rest of it. Fanservice and more yawnfest Legendaries. Boy, really making me want to play it now... [/sarcasm]Hey, I've got no issue with that, I was just curious why you didn't even bring it up, considering that was the only thing we had talked about so far (No legendary talk probably since the Legendary thing is actually old news). Why DO you dislike Sun and Moon anyways? It's not that different from other Pokemon games structurally, so unless you just dislike all Pokemon games (In that case why the hell are you even in this thread), I feel like it's just a weird single out.

Probably a combination of things. I played Pokemon religiously up to Generation 4, and started battling competitively in Gen 3. These were all emulated, however. Because BW didn't emulate properly, I lost interest and didn't play again until I acquired a 3DS and played Y. Y was a really fun game to me and still probably my favorite of the series. I've never been a fan of the remake crazy trend GameFreak adopts, so while I had no real interest is Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, I picked them up just to play some of the new Mega Evolutions and use some Pokes from Y I didn't get to. (Since I dislike the Hoenn dex, I used those instead, which the game surprisingly allowed). But after that, I was quick to resell it after trading everything back to Y. From the demo alone, something about S/M really sat wrong with me. I really did not like the aesthetic or the setting (perhaps the D-pad change to joystick was part of it, but not all of it) and I was not impressed. But I thought "Eh, well at least it's up-to-date and I can maybe get into it." 30 minutes in, I tried so hard to get into it and I was having the least fun I have ever had in a video game. And to add the cherry to my cup of disappointment ice cream, despite being on the exact same system, now suddenly had to pay a yearly fee just to bring over past Pokemon. Suddenly the true deception and the greed became all too apparent and I wanted nothing more to do with it. It's literally the same system and now the only way to transfer is to pay them. Boy, that's convenient. I was not falling for that kind of garbage. All that together made me fiercely dislike what those games stood for. On a new console (I'm guessing Switch), it might be warranted, but not on the same one literally 5 other games have been on. Really put me off, especially with how many people were defending it, despite how absolutely blatant it came across to me. So, setting, controls, and business practices of GF, essentially. Don't think I missed out on much either; in true GF practice, the post-game is barren because... THEN THEY COULDN'T SELL ULTRA SUN AND MOON. Yeah, I'm done with it for now. This is ridiculous. I don't want to support this kind of practice.

>And to add the cherry to my cup of disappointment ice cream, despite being on the exact same system, now suddenly had to pay a yearly fee just to bring over past Pokemon. >suddenly had to pay a yearly fee just to bring over past Pokemon. >suddenly had to pay a yearly fee I guess gen. 6 didn't exist And jesus christ dude, it's just a kids game. Lighten up on business practices.

>And to add the cherry to my cup of disappointment ice cream, despite being on the exact same system, now suddenly had to pay a yearly fee just to bring over past Pokemon. >suddenly had to pay a yearly fee just to bring over past Pokemon. >suddenly had to pay a yearly fee I guess gen. 6 didn't exist Everyone says this. Yes, the Pokemon Bank has existed for awhile, but it was optional. I could transfer between games myself using the GTS and or just having someone online trade with me. Now you HAVE TO use the Pokemon Bank to bring in past generations, despite it all being the same system. This was obviously intentional to rake in $$$$. And I want no part in it. Edit: He asked why I disliked it. There you go. It doesn't matter if it's a kid's game; it's still shady business practices.

But... but that's how the system works. Think about it this way. If I want to transfer photos from my phone to my computer, I have to get a cord or something to get the photos there in a timely fashion. Therefore, by your logic, the fact that I have to buy a cord to transfer stuff between two different systems makes this a shady business practice.

"Repent for the end is nigh! Pokemon Bank marks the doom of our race! The only way to survive is to never purchase any Pokemon things ever again! Lest thee be cast into the Poke flames with the rest!"-Togo System.

But... but that's how the system works. Think about it this way. If I want to transfer photos from my phone to my computer, I have to get a cord or something to get the photos there in a timely fashion. Therefore, by your logic, the fact that I have to buy a cord to transfer stuff between two different systems makes this a shady business practice. Every PC has a USB input and every phone also shares a compatible USB cable in its charger (that comes with it). They can communicate rather easily. Imagine the PC is your Pokemon game and the phone is your console. Until now, they can communicate no problem, but now a 'new' PC comes out and they exclude the USB port because now to transfer with your phone, you gotta pay to use their online data drop service. So, why remove what's worked until now? Because they want you to go through them; they have forced you to use them as a middle man. That's the proper analogy of how I see it.

Oh, Cyrus is coming back? Just the thing to make me buy a 7th Gen game!

Personally, I enjoyed the tropical feel of Gen 7. They still managed to put different themes of areas in the game as well, so the main theme of the islands didn't really get old to me as quickly as it might have for other people. The controls I found were alright. It didn't put me off the game, at the very least, which is a positive in my eyes. Controls aren't that important to me, as long as they synergize well with the gameplay, which it did to me. As for the business practises of Game Freak, your acting like you HAVE to pay an annual fee, which you don't. It's easy enough to play the game from the ground up without relying on any pokemon from X and Y. As for the game itself, I thought it was a good game, but it took a while to get going properly. Like Fire Emblem Echoes, you should give it a chance for more than an hour.

R.I.P. thread, amiright?

Fair point. Although... a yearly cost of 5 dollars? Even a high schooler like me can afford that. That's only a fraction of what I spend on games in a year. Tatsu said it best tbh

R.I.P. thread, amiright? True Dat.

"Repent for the end is nigh! Pokemon Bank marks the doom of our race! The only way to survive is to never purchase any Pokemon things ever again! Lest thee be cast into the Poke flames with the rest!"-Togo System. Who's taking it too seriously now? Honestly, Pokemon has become quite boring to me now in general, especially since I've begun branching out to other games. As stated, it's a kid's game and literally the only reason anyone over 10 even buys them is for the competitive side, myself included. Apart from that, it's the same game it's always been, 20+ years ago. It probably would've happened before now, but the new model just accelerated it quicker. I couldn't care less if I ever played Pokemon again, to be honest. But just stating how greedy I think GameFreak has become. Fair point. Although... a yearly cost of 5 dollars? Even a high schooler like me can afford that. That's only a fraction of what I spend on games in a year. Tatsu said it best tbh It's not the price; it's the principle. And mostly, I don't care enough either.

R.I.P. thread, amiright? The only thread that hasn't died from Togo intoxication is the Last Post War tbh

Personally, I enjoyed the tropical feel of Gen 7. They still managed to put different themes of areas in the game as well, so the main theme of the islands didn't really get old to me as quickly as it might have for other people. The controls I found were alright. It didn't put me off the game, at the very least, which is a positive in my eyes. Controls aren't that important to me, as long as they synergize well with the gameplay, which it did to me. As for the business practises of Game Freak, your acting like you HAVE to pay an annual fee, which you don't. It's easy enough to play the game from the ground up without relying on any pokemon from X and Y. As for the game itself, I thought it was a good game, but it took a while to get going properly. Like Fire Emblem Echoes, you should give it a chance for more than an hour. Yeah, I don't know; just something about it was not enjoyable to me. And for Echoes; same thing. Both games I honestly gave a fair shot, and for FE, I played for over an hour, trying to get into it and I just could not. Just a fact of life, I suppose, that there are some games that simply don't resonate with you.

Sodium, atomic number 11, was first isolated by Humphry Davy in 1807. A chemical component of salt, he named it Na in honor of the saltiest region on earth, North America. Anyway, back on topic, I hope we get Shaymin around. Love the lil guy.

I actually have no idea how I'm still in love with Pokemon tbh. The fandom suck, same format for everything, and etc. But for some reason, I love it. Is it the story? Characters? Difficulty? Graphics? No one knows, but I'm addicted.

Anyway, back on topic, I hope we get Shaymin around. Love the lil guy. I MUST HAVE JIRACHI

Sodium, atomic number 11, was first isolated by Humphry Davy in 1807. A chemical component of salt, he named it Na in honor of the saltiest region on earth, North America. Anyway, back on topic, I hope we get Shaymin around. Love the lil guy. Okay, same, I'm trying to Glitch Pokemon Pearl to get one with out the event.

I actually have no idea how I'm still in love with Pokemon tbh. The fandom suck, same format for everything, and etc. But for some reason, I love it. Is it the story? Characters? Difficulty? Graphics? No one knows, but I'm addicted. Those games have their own charm that isn't ever equalled. The only reason I haven't bought Sun is because Echoes distracted me.

Fandom is okay tbh, depending on which side you visit. Not sure why, but there's something about Pokémon that's just addicting to people. For me, it's the lil critters and competitive. Mostly the former.

I actually have no idea how I'm still in love with Pokemon tbh. The fandom suck, same format for everything, and etc. But for some reason, I love it. Is it the story? Characters? Difficulty? Graphics? No one knows, but I'm addicted. It has an adventurous feel to it. The start of a journey. While I only played it for online battles, I still never rushed through the story and took my time with it. I never care what's happening in said story, but it's just fun to explore and go on a journey inside the region, at least. Like that long vacation you want to remember, where you went and saw everything.

Yeah, maybe that's why I love gen 5 so much, my first journey. It was also a pain to get due to the time that my whole family thought pokemon was bad.

it's the same game it's always been, 20+ years ago. Oh hey. A Gen Wunner argument. Again, jokes aside, I play a game once to get a good feel for it. If I initially don't like it, I keep playing. Sometimes, the game picks up and sometimes it doesn't. Another fact of life is that you shouldn't just give up on something part way through. Then again, I can't judge you without being a hypocrite. I did the exact same thing to "Time and Eternity" a month ago. And, I really want Uxie. My favourite pixie right there.

And, I really want Uxie. My favourite pixie right there. Most likely, they are a legendary after all.

Oh hey. A Gen Wunner argument. Again, jokes aside, I play a game once to get a good feel for it. If I initially don't like it, I keep playing. Sometimes, the game picks up and sometimes it doesn't. Another fact of life is that you shouldn't just give up on something part way through. Then again, I can't judge you without being a hypocrite. I did the exact same thing to "Time and Eternity" a month ago. And, I really want Uxie. My favourite pixie right there. There was no hope for me to like S/M, but with FE, I bought Echoes the moment I saw a new one was out, unaware it was even a remake of an older game. I was a little worried, but thought "Oh, it must be updated like Fates, just with the old story" (in the vein of Pokemon, this is how their remakes have usually been). But after starting with Awakening and then finally mastering Fates, to see that almost nothing from these later games was included, and it was essentially only a graphical enhance, it stopped being the FE I wanted to play. IE, no pairing up, support, etc. By the time I got to my first town and the fact it was very awkward first person controls, that's when I knew "No, I can't play this." Nothing about the story was drawing me in to it as well, so I quit. That's kinda the downside with starting with the newer games first; if you've never seen the old ones, they're hugely difficult to get into. I've seen clips of every old FE game on past consoles and none of them look appealing to me at all. If I started with Generation 6 of Pokemon, I never, ever could've played 1-4.

What's wrong with the old fire emblem games? Just because they lack the new easy mode feature, dating simulators and a few new mechanics, doesn't make the old games bad. Also, I thought you said you played the game. I don't count the first town as being able to see everything the game has to offer. Nothing wrong with old games or gameplay styles. Give them a bit of a chance before you say stuff like that, eh? Otherwise, you come across a little spoiled. #bait

Echoes is genuinely good though. It actually incorporates supports, for one, instead of that shitpile Shadow Dragon. Inb4 all remakes of old FE games get called "Fire Emblem Echoes: [Insert subtitle about the game]".

Echoes is genuinely good though. It actually incorporates supports, for one, instead of that shitpile Shadow Dragon. Inb4 all remakes of old FE games get called "Fire Emblem Echoes: [Insert subtitle about the game]". If I had only played Awakening and not Fates, perhaps I could've gotten more into it, but alas.

Sooooooo back on topic, the Japanese trailer shows a LOT more stuff! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qlXHmP99BY

YOOO GIRATINA also Shaymin reveal when and looks like Uxie's in here! Good for you, Gin!

Lot of information already there from old trailers. Still, Cyrus has a houndoom. We know this now.