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Anybody here into VS. Debating?
Just curious. I used to do it a lot on the first forum I was apart of, but that's gone now. I do still lurk places like the OBD and spacebattles and r/whowouldwin or whatever it's called every now and then, but I've never attempted to join any of them.
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I don't know this. Can you explain it in more detail?
Who would win stuff? Never been into that, unless Saltybet counts... although then again, I do enjoy it when it comes up, especially since I wrote practically an essay about an Akechi vs Naoto vs Adachi matchup on here once.
I don't know this. Can you explain it in more detail? Hypothetical battles between fictional, or non-fictional, characters like Goku vs. Super or Pokemon vs. Harry Potter. OBD is probably the biggest VS. forum and they even have their own wiki. Ironically, it's on a Naruto forum, but pretty much all OBDers hate Nardo. Also, they're pretty big wrestling fans. http://www.outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/8-character-profiles/2224-character-profile-cm-punk http://www.outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/8-character-profiles/24-character-profile-son-goku http://www.outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/fictions/1516-character-profile-the-one-above-all http://www.outskirtsbattledomewiki.com/index.php/14-fiction-profiles/2414-pokemon
I could get into it. Pick a topic.
Corpse party
I could get into it. Pick a topic. Wolverine vs. Class 1A from My Hero Academia 1 on 1 gauntlet style. Fight takes place in the UA sports festival arena. Logan gets healed after each fight. No knowledge or prep for either side. Or since this is a Persona site, the Phantom Thieves vs. Light Yamagi. Light is after the Phantom Thieves and is leading whatever unit it was searching for them, and the PT have decided that Kira needs a change of heart. scenario 1- PT have access to Sae and Akechi scenario 2- No Sae or Akechi. Or for something less done before and more an actual fight: Joker vs. Edward Elric from the original FMA anime.
Light would have virtually no way to even find the thieves, even if he had Shinigami eyes. The fact they can vanish into the Metaverse is another strike against him. They could find him a lot easier than he could ever find them. Don't forget their large web of allies. His heart would be changed.
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If it took place, the interrogation would certainly bring the risk of Light killing Akira. After all, Sae would also probably still be part of the investigation unit on the case, and if Light learned of Akira's name and saw him in his true appearance, then that would be an easy kill. Can the Death Note extend into another dimension? I've never really watched the anime. If it didn't, then then PT could possibly use the same trick on Light as they did on Akechi somehow.
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If it took place, the interrogation would certainly bring the risk of Light killing Akira. After all, Sae would also probably still be part of the investigation unit on the case, and if Light learned of Akira's name and saw him in his true appearance, then that would be an easy kill. Can the Death Note extend into another dimension? I've never really watched the anime. If it didn't, then then PT could possibly use the same trick on Light as they did on Akechi somehow. So long as the victim can be identified, I don't see why it wouldn't work across different dimensions. Hell, that's pretty much in the show itself, with Shinigami killing humans with the notes from their own realm.
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I see. However, the interrogation could be avoided if Scenario 1 took place and the PT had actually befriended Akechi and Sae in this situation, leading to him having almost no chance. The masks would most likely restrict appearance, and they hide their names well. If Scenario 2 took place and they befriended Sae after the death of Akira, they could possibly tamper with the evidence and destroy Akira's phone/any records of Akira associating with his confidants/team. I'm possibly overthinking this, as i'm pretty sure that the search started after the Madarame incident, and they have 4 palaces to find Light afterwards, which would be plenty of time before the Casino Capture.
I didn't even think of the masks blocking Light either. And they would. That's actually one of the DN rules. Good catch. The PTs seem to be well equipped to bring down someone like Kira.
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Or they could find out that Light is leading the investigation from Akechi after Okumura's palace, possibly in Scenario 1 where Akechi is a friend. Scenario 2, the canon scenario, where Akechi isn't all buddy buddy, would possibly work, though, as they can still take the treasure out of the Palace while everyone is distracted by Akira, changing Light's heart. They could possibly convince him to save Akira to repent as they did with Sae, effectively changing Light's heart and saving Akira from death.
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Thus, I'm closing my statements and naming the winner the P Thieves. It would be almost impossible for Light to find the P Thieves before the Casino Capture, and regardless of the scenario, Akechi would tell the group about Light being the one leading the investigation, and they would go after him regardless whether they knew about his secret identity or not. This would lead to them actually stealing the treasure as opposed to faking it (as no one in the group had a relation to Light) and changing his heart and saving Akira (as long as he gets over his crying fit after the change)
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Light would have virtually no way to even find the thieves, even if he had Shinigami eyes. The fact they can vanish into the Metaverse is another strike against him. They could find him a lot easier than he could ever find them. Don't forget their large web of allies. His heart would be changed. Akechi managed to figure them out. Granted he was a Persona user, so that probably helped. Really all Light would need is for Joker's name to come up somewhere and he'd be able to start looking into him. I doubt he'd actually do anything until he's 100% sure, and the PT's allies could probably help, but overall, Light's probably gonna have an easier time. Light also managed to evade the police for what I think was some years. Without their connection to Sae or Akechi in the police, the PT have really no way of figuring out Light is Kira. I will say this, though. Unlike with Light where learning their names would merely be a first step, if the PT were to come across Light's name, it'd be a done deal. All they'd have to do is enter his name into the MetaNav just because might as well try and they'd get a hit and from there, it's business as usual. I should probably note that this is a completely non-canon scenario and the actual events of the game have no bearing on any of this. Meaning no interrogation or anything like that. Also for fun, what do you think Light's place would look like?
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Read my previous posts, it solidifies the argument that they would find Light's name regardless of the scenario because of Akechi.
It fits with the main backstory, as Akechi would probably still put up the front of trying to end the investigation, and I would doubt he would go for Sae because she isn't a main part of it in this universe.
Light would have virtually no way to even find the thieves, even if he had Shinigami eyes. The fact they can vanish into the Metaverse is another strike against him. They could find him a lot easier than he could ever find them. Don't forget their large web of allies. His heart would be changed. Akechi managed to figure them out. Granted he was a Persona user, so that probably helped. Really all Light would need is for Joker's name to come up somewhere and he'd be able to start looking into him. I doubt he'd actually do anything until he's 100% sure, and the PT's allies could probably help, but overall, Light's probably gonna have an easier time. Light also managed to evade the police for what I think was some years. Without their connection to Sae or Akechi in the police, the PT have really no way of figuring out Light is Kira. I will say this, though. Unlike with Light where learning their names would merely be a first step, if the PT were to come across Light's name, it'd be a done deal. All they'd have to do is enter his name into the MetaNav just because might as well try and they'd get a hit and from there, it's business as usual. I should probably note that this is a completely non-canon scenario and the actual events of the game have no bearing on any of this. Meaning no interrogation or anything like that. Also for fun, what do you think Light's place would look like? Light's Palace would probably encompass all of Earth. He'd be God and perhaps the planet itself, under his rule, would be his own twisted and biased version of Heaven.
Ah, I see. Well, their relationship with Akechi would still warrent them finding out the name of the investigator, but possibly only in Scenario 1 as Akechi would have told them the name of the investigator.
Except Akechi isn't around in scenario 2. It's just the main crew trying to stop Kira own their own.
(If the universe is unrelated to the main canon.)
Ah, ok. SO they would have a higher risk of being defeated in Scenario 2. However, I would like to also reference a video I recently watched. Here, watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8OfANX2hEw&t=835s
The Narrator is serious about his anime fights. He even does homework. :-! Edit: ...I cannot believe that video spoiled part of Danganronpa 1 for me...
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The P Thieves could use the internet/Phansite as a base of operations. This could in turn lead to Light's downfall in Scenario 2.
The Narrator is serious about his anime fights. He even does homework. :-! I get involved in topics like this too easily... 0_0
The P Thieves could use the internet/Phansite as a base of operations. This could in turn lead to Light's downfall in Scenario 2. It doesn't even have to be the P Thieves who take him out. It could just be the police, and the P Thieves could just leave him alone or change his heart easily.
The Narrator is serious about his anime fights. He even does homework. :-! Edit: ...I cannot believe that video spoiled part of Danganronpa 1 for me... I'm so sorry...
Ah, ok. SO they would have a higher risk of being defeated in Scenario 2. However, I would like to also reference a video I recently watched. Here, watch it: https://youtube.com/embed/r8OfANX2hEw?autoplay=1 That was seriously impressive.
Was it?
So, what do ya say, Revali? Do you think your opinion still stands, or have you forfeited? I'm welcome to any counterarguments before the end of this debate.
You have to account for ryuji. He slips up and makes so many things harder for the pt that it would leave plenty of openings for light. Especially when he gets obsessed with a case. It would be like makotos investigation only he would be doing it for himself and thus be more alert to any and all facts.
So, what do ya say, Revali? Do you think your opinion still stands, or have you forfeited? I'm welcome to any counterarguments before the end of this debate. I was gonna argue that none of them are computer savvy enough to really make use of any of that, but then I remember Futaba exists and she could probably take care of all of that on her own, so yeah I guess I'll concede that one.