"- Advertise products/services that are not related to the site's theme." What's the purpose of the petition?

It's to make ESRB consider lootboxes gambling. It's getting a lot of traction.

I'm actually in agreement of this. If you can post it, consider me in.

I don't even think they're gambling, so much as just a blatant bad investment. It's hard to fathom thinking "Something good is going to come out of this service" ever. What would this do? Would it limit it, put a disclaimer to make the service more apparent, or what?

Paying for a roll of the dice, or RNG in this case, is blatant gambling TS. And as such, gambling itself is indeed a bad investment.

I didn't disagree it wasn't gambling, but more-so, I think it's overall a bad gambling investment to begin with. Like betting at that shady casino you know has a reputation for cheating. You should figure you're probably not going to come out happy.

As Noble a goal that is, it's best placed on a different forum. I'd be willing to make a subsection on discord, or if Mishima willing, make a custom room for advertising, so that way people who want it, can have it.

What would this do? Would it limit it, put a disclaimer to make the service more apparent, or what? It says that they want to make it so games with loot boxes get an adult only rating. Which would (in-theory) scare game developers from making money from little kids. This would potentially kill lootboxes and micro transactions.

It would kill most game sells, as most stores will not sell AO rated games. Edit: not to mention that games with pre existent loot boxes would face fines will up $100k or more.

Loot boxes are like the lottery in video games. You have a once in a thousand chance but you still try anyways. Sadly, it might be a terrible way to gamble but it sells either way. Making it adult only content would be like lottery tickets are only able to be purchased by adults. Only it won't fly so smoothly in games. It's a great idea

Scarce can you Pm me that link? I would love to sign it

Me too. I'll sign as well.

Same. I'm game.

Oh, it looks like it's on the anon chat, just have to scroll down a little.

It'd be easier if you just sent the link. I don't actively stalk the anon chat.

lmao this is a fucking terrible idea, and there is an argument to be made that its not technically gambling Look I don't like loot boxes either but this is just stupid to be frank this would do more harm then good, without a single doubt if you want loot boxes gone, the only way you can get rid of the efficiently is to just not put money into them, and convince others to do the same

It'd be easier if you just sent the link. I don't actively stalk the anon chat. Thing is, i got muted from a previous alt mistake. I'm not sure if it will let me. The mute did happen months ago. Hibiki, it'd be impossible to convince everyone to stop buying micro transactions, and yes, ESRB has made a statement on this, saying that since you always get something in return, that it is not gambling. But, a comment on the petition said this: "This is obviously gambling, you can sell accounts which means there is a back and forth of cash. Further, if I make a lottery where I get paid 2$ per ticket and guarantee 1$ back any judge in the United States would still call that what it is." I think it'd be better to do this, and say, as gamers, that we do not want them. I feel as gaming will turn into casinos unless something is done.

It'd be easier if you just sent the link. I don't actively stalk the anon chat. Thing is, i got muted from a previous alt mistake. I'm not sure if it will let me. The mute did happen months ago. Hibiki, it'd be impossible to convince everyone to stop buying micro transactions, and yes, ESRB has made a statement on this, saying that since you always get something in return, that it is not gambling. But, a comment on the petition said this: "This is obviously gambling, you can sell accounts which means there is a back and forth of cash. Further, if I make a lottery where I get paid 2$ per ticket and guarantee 1$ back any judge in the United States would still call that what it is." I think it'd be better to do this, and say, as gamers, that we do not want them. I feel as gaming will turn into casinos unless something is done. No matter what people are going to buy them cause they don't want to be the weak player. They are essentially bullied into getting them. I found the link and signed

In my opinion, microtransactions are gay unless you can feasibly play the game without them. That is all I can say on the matter. Praise Jesus folks!

I personally think lootboxes that only give cosmetic changes are completely justified and they don't have to be changed, it's just a texture. I don't see why people get so antsy about it, the devs could always remove the skin entirely and stop it completely. But then people would complain about that. It's a lose lose situation. However, lootboxes that can be bought ingame with micro transactions that affect gameplay are sketch, and should be removed, I think its okay if its in-game currency that is earned by playing the game, but not by buying them.

Is random chance even needed tho PK? What happened to the times where you could see what skins you could get with in-game currency, and get them without random chance? Such as Far Cry 4? Or with Modern Warfare 2 for example. You got skins for completing challenges. There are many alternatives to micro transactions that are easier and more fun to do.

It'd be easier if you just sent the link. I don't actively stalk the anon chat. Thing is, i got muted from a previous alt mistake. I'm not sure if it will let me. The mute did happen months ago. Hibiki, it'd be impossible to convince everyone to stop buying micro transactions, and yes, ESRB has made a statement on this, saying that since you always get something in return, that it is not gambling. But, a comment on the petition said this: "This is obviously gambling, you can sell accounts which means there is a back and forth of cash. Further, if I make a lottery where I get paid 2$ per ticket and guarantee 1$ back any judge in the United States would still call that what it is." I think it'd be better to do this, and say, as gamers, that we do not want them. I feel as gaming will turn into casinos unless something is done. No matter what people are going to buy them cause they don't want to be the weak player. They are essentially bullied into getting them. I found the link and signed Send it to me. I cannot find it.

Is random chance even needed tho PK? What happened to the times where you could see what skins you could get with in-game currency, and get them without random chance? Such as Far Cry 4? Or with Modern Warfare 2 for example. You got skins for completing challenges. There are many alternatives to micro transactions that are easier and more fun to do. Mmm, that's always preferable, but I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon, you kinda have to accept the reality that this is the new norm for AAA developers to siphon a bit more money out of you. The best you can do is to ignore it and protest by not buying it.

i don't think ignoring this is the best option. It'll only spread out of control unless people tell the corporations that it is wrong. They will find even WORSE ways to take people's money. As much as a pain it may sound. This is necessary I believe. Many other corporations, such as Take-Two interactive, who is behind GTA and Red Dead Redemption, are thinking about putting micro transactions in their games. They are currently mid-development, and if we speak out and say, "This is wrong." We may be able to change the way these people think. Sounds kinda similar to Persona 5... 🤔🤔🤔

Hmm, that could work but I don't personally see it happening, tbh I think your wallet speaks more then your words, if you don't buy the game then the developers will listen, they only pander to earn more cash. However even knowing this people will still go out and buy the game, think about the Call of Duty game that came out last year? Infinite Warfare I think? It changed as a large majority of the community boy cotted the game.

If ignoring the MT's was all it took then it would be done. Game reviewers and gamers have been speaking out against it for years. If anything they are more prevalent now then they once were. Outs the same thing when they release broken and incomplete games with full knowledge of the fact. They know they will sell regardless. We need to make a vocal stand to persuade them to change their ways as well as not buy the MT's. It's the only way to get the message through.